February 8, 2007

Edwards: “Anti-Catholic Bigots are Welcome on my Campaign Staff”

Posted in National Politics at 3:37 pm by Paul Smith Jr

I wasn’t going to blog on this, figuring that once it came to his attention what these people had written he’d do the right thing and disassociate with them. Since Edwards refused to take the obvious step, I’m blogging.

“I talked personally to the two women who were involved. They gave me their word they, under no circumstances, intended to denigrate any church or anybody’s religion and offered their apologies for anything that indicated otherwise. I took them at their word,” Edwards told reporters.

“It has never been my intention to disparage people’s individual faith, and I’m sorry if my words were taken in that way,” McEwen’s statement said.

Marcotte’s statement said her writings on religion on her blog, Pandagon, are generally satirical criticisms of public policies and politics.

“My intention is never to offend anyone for his or her personal beliefs, and I am sorry if anyone was personally offended by writings meant only as criticisms of public politics,” Marcotte said. “Freedom of religion and freedom of expression are central rights, and the sum of my personal writings is a testament to this fact.”

Here’s some of what they wrote:

Marcotte:

Q: What if Mary had taken Plan B after the Lord filled her with his hot, white, sticky Holy Spirit?
A: You’d have to justify your misogyny with another ancient mythology. (Source)

More Marcotte:

There’s a pragmatic reason that the Vatican might be a little hesitant to come right out and say that there’s no limbo (definition here, for those who don’t know much about Catholicism) is because the concept is wielded by everyday Catholics to explain where the souls of unborn babies go, which is just an extra way to guilt trip women who have abortions. But it’s sort of a balancing act, as far as I can tell, because as most people understand it, unbaptized children go to limbo but when Jesus returns, they all get to go to heaven. So it’s a way to guilt trip women who have abortions without casting god as such an uncruel monster as to throw souls into hell that never even had a shot at sinning. So that’s limbo: it sucks enough to make women feel guilty about abortion, but it doesn’t suck so much as to run people off.

I suspect Pope Ratz will give into the urge eventually to come out and say there’s no limbo and unbaptized babies go straight to hell. He can’t help it; he’s just a dictator like that. Hey, fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly, the Pope’s gotta tell women who give birth to stillborns that their babies are cast into Satan’s maw. The alternative is to let Catholic women who get abortions feel that it’ll all work out in the end, which is just not doable, due to that Jesus-like compassion the Pope is so fond of. Still, it’s going to be bad PR for the church, so you can sort of see why the Pope is dragging ass.

Which all brings me to recommending this great post by Austin Cline at Jesus’ General about why authoritarian types are so damn interested in cobbling people’s sex lives and meddling around in people’s private sexual decisions, like in this case why the Catholic church is so interested in making sure that people can’t make the perfectly sound decision to limit their family size while enjoying a healthy sex life—either you’re going to have to forgo birth control or you’re going to have to feel guilty to the point where you fear you’re casting babies into hellfire, by their standards. It’s a way to disrupt people’s lives so the church can get more control. (Source)

Still more:

The problem with Rick Santorum is that every time he talks about sex, that little part of all of us that wants to run into a preschool and yell “f**kslut” or go to a born-again church and scream about how God loves to come in our backyards for our milkshakes, well, it just grows a hundredfold, and the restraint that most of us show just flies out the window. As a Senator, however, Santorum finds himself frequently faced with many of the most pressing issues of penis insertion that have ever faced America—and so he must speak, lest his lack of self-control be manifested by f**king his desk on the Senate floor. (There’s a knothole that’s just the right size, y’know.) The problem with Rick Santorum is that every time he talks about sex, that little part of all of us that wants to run into a preschool and yell “f**kslut” or go to a born-again church and scream about how God loves to come in our backyards for our milkshakes, well, it just grows a hundredfold, and the restraint that most of us show just flies out the window. As a Senator, however, Santorum finds himself frequently faced with many of the most pressing issues of penis insertion that have ever faced America—and so he must speak, lest his lack of self-control be manifested by f**king his desk on the Senate floor. (There’s a knothole that’s just the right size, y’know.) (Source)

And again:

One thing I vow here and now—you motherf**kers who want to ban birth control will never sleep. I will f**k without making children day in and out and you will know it and you won’t be able to stop it. Toss and turn, you mean, jealous motherf**kers. I’m not going to be “punished” with babies. Which makes all your efforts a failure. Some non-procreating women escaped. So give up now. You’ll never catch all of us. Give up now. (Source)

No. Can’t imagine why anyone would be offended by that. These couldn’t possibly have been intended to give offense. No possible way.

There are many Catholics who disagree with Church teachings, but they still don’t want the Catholic Church spoken of this way. This will be passed around in every Catholic Church in America. (And many Protestants won’t be happy about the attacks on religion either.) If Edwards wins the nomination, I think the GOP will have been handed the White House again due to his own incompetence.

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8 Comments »

  1. Dana Garrett said,

    “This will be passed around in every Catholic Church in America. (And many Protestants won’t be happy about the attacks on religion either.)”

    Yes, and the vast majority will enjoy a good laugh because they don’t share your apparent view that spiritual life is a joyless, dour and judgmental experience.

  2. Dude, that’s not it at all. No one tells more Catholic jokes than active Catholics. I know I tell many myself. But that fact is, these are just pure bigotry and Edwards has given them a de facto endorsement. Catholics won’t take that nicely. We like Mary, Jesus and the Pope and don’t take attacks on them lightly. We’re okay with jokes, not attacks.

  3. firststatepolitics said,

    I agree. Edwards didn’t just endorse them, he made them his spokespeople on the web. They literally speak for him. I’ll take Paul’s idea one further — this will make it into every church in America, and that will happen before the primary is over. It won’t be Republicans doing it. Republicans WANT Edwards to win the nomination.

  4. You guys are crazy if you see anything other than silliness in Marcotte’s comments. Bigotry? C’mon, Paul…give it a rest!!! Just admit it…YOU were offended. That’s it. You, as a hard-core fundamental Catholic, were offended. Plain and simple.

    I love Jesus jokes. And I love jokes that describe rosaries being placed in naughty places. And I like jokes about the funny hats Jews wear. Not because I hate Catholics or Jews…but because I hold my ability to laugh in higher regard than my ability to accept and follow a man-made religion.

  5. By the way, I also like cartoons that depict Muslims as the violent thugs that many of them are. Because making fun of Muslims is awesome, too.

  6. Hube said,

    Yes, Mike — but we don’t see GOP presidential candidates hiring bloggers who write posts depicting Muslims as brutal, violent thugs. If we did, you can be sure it’d be frontpage MSM news and the demands would be all over that the bloggers resign. Then Matthews, Olbermann, et al would devote a few weeks worth of programming wondering if the candidate was really “ready” and/or if he was a bigot, of course.

    Dana: I sincerely doubt you’d get “a good laugh” if some GOP pres. candidate bloggers did exactly what Mike said above — wrote scathing “jokes” about Muslims. Or blacks. Or gays. In fact, I believe you’d have some scathing posts of your own up about it — denouncing the candidate for hiring the bloggers. And you’d be 100% correct.

  7. Hube said,

    My 1st paragraph should read “all/most Muslims…”

  8. As Hube correctly pointed out, there would be a different reaction if these clearly intentially offensive comments had been directed at Muslims, black,s women, whoever. And some people’s endorsement of them just shows that anti-Catholicism is still accepted in some segments of our society.

    Mike, read the post above this one. It’s not just conservatives who are offended.


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